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Title: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: coothead on 29 Apr 2021, 11:07:45 am
How about this peeps,

sitepoint forums (https://www.sitepoint.com/community/), in their infinite wisdom, have not banned me,
but have instead provided me with this amusing information...

Quote from: sitepoint
Login Error

Account suspended until April 28, 3021: Demonstrated contempt for forums

Should I put that date in my diary?  ???

coothead
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: mmerlinn on 29 Apr 2021, 01:07:23 pm
How about this peeps,

sitepoint forums (https://www.sitepoint.com/community/), in their infinite wisdom, have not banned me,
but have instead provided me with this amusing information...

Quote from: sitepoint
Login Error

Account suspended until April 28, 3021: Demonstrated contempt for forums

Should I put that date in my diary?  ???

coothead

Yes, put that date in your diary. If you don't you will have completely forgotten about the expiration of this suspension and will forget to log back in to see what has happened over the last thousand years.  :) :) :)

I assume this means that they have reset your biological clock to expire sometime after their suspension expires.  ENJOY THE NEXT THOUSAND YEARS!!!
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: GrumpyYoungMan on 30 Apr 2021, 01:22:02 am
You naughty boy, Coothead....


I can’t imagine what you could have said to warrant a lifetime ban... 😢
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: coothead on 30 Apr 2021, 04:04:55 am
Quote from: GrumpyYoungMan
I can’t imagine what you could have said to warrant a lifetime ban... 😢

I am not banned,  I'm suspended. ::)

coothead
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: GrumpyYoungMan on 30 Apr 2021, 04:42:57 am
Quote from: GrumpyYoungMan
I can’t imagine what you could have said to warrant a lifetime ban... 😢

I am not banned,  I'm suspended. ::)

coothead
Okay, a lifetime suspension.... I still can't believe you would have done something bad enough to warrant a suspension (ban?).
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: coothead on 30 Apr 2021, 08:54:22 am
Quote from: GrumpyYoungMan
I still can't believe you would have done something
bad enough to warrant a suspension (ban?).

I am surprised that I lasted so long.  ::)

Sitepoint describes itself as family friendly which
in reality actually  equates to individual hostile.  :D

coothead
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: jmrker on 30 Apr 2021, 09:14:35 pm
Is this suspension a good or bad thing from your prospective?
Is the penalty a restriction to just view the site contents
or that you cannot submit opinions/suggestions/code etc.?

Who does the decision depend upon to warrant a suspension?
What is the review process to ban or suspend or warn?

Do they have an appeal process? 
Do you need a testimonial of your worth from us?  You have my vote.

I would question whether the site has overcome the Y2K threat from 21 years ago.
Maybe they are not as advanced as they think. :)
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: GrumpyYoungMan on 1 May 2021, 01:28:58 am
I think it’s totally there loss and I’m sure if Coothead really wanted to rejoin he could with an alter ego! 🤪😂😂
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: coothead on 1 May 2021, 09:05:45 am
Quote from: jmrker
Is this suspension a good or bad thing from your prospective?

I just think that it is childishly silly.

A thousand year suspension is a ban, so why piss around?
Sitepoint, though, in it's infinite wisdom always has a problem 
when it comes to calling a spade a spade.  ::)
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Is the penalty a restriction to just view the site contents
or that you cannot submit opinions/suggestions/code etc.?

I may only view contents in the same manner as a non-member.
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Who does the decision depend upon to warrant a suspension?
What is the review process to ban or suspend or warn?
Do they have an appeal process? 

No idea.
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Do you need a testimonial of your worth from us?  You have my vote.

That is a kind gesture, but as  GrumpyYoungMan has pointed out
I could bypass attempts to keep me out with an alter ego.

This is the information that loyal members, and an alter ego, can
see about me...

(https://coothead.co.uk/images/suspended.png)

...which is much more than deathshadow gets.  8)

But I do quite like being contemptible coothead.

contemptible coothead

Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: Jason Knight on 3 May 2021, 09:57:51 pm
Hey, welcome to the permaban club. I've been banned from there for near on a decade now.

I always found Sitepoint to be a den of suck-ups and sycophants. It's not about doing anything well, or cleaner, or better, and people who ACTUALLY try to help others get shouted down by staff members who have raging boners for their favorite pet techniques and frameworks, and flat out refuse to hear that anything they promote might be broken.

Hell, the post that threw it over the line for them was me telling Paul O'B that no, REM (at the time) didn't work in Firefox properly always reporting a 16px equivalent even when the system size and OS size was changed, unlike EM that worked properly.

Two months later I found that if you put font-size:1EM; on HTML, it fixed FF. Native fix didn't come until quantum.

Sadly I think that's a lot of what's killing forums. Used to be you could go these various places to get real help. Today everyone just says "copy from this framework". Often not the framework someone is already using, often not solving the problem, and the people who DO actually try and help all get banned, and people looking for real help just give up and walk away. They've made these bubbles of like-minded head bobbing "yes men" where you simply cannot go to get real help or voice anything that disagrees with their bullshit.

And it doesn't matter how politely or rudely you put it. Remember, I was banned from a forum just a year and a half ago for simply outlining what was wrong with someone's site. There was no profanity, no insults, but I dared to not just given them a pat on the back and tell them everything was fine when it clearly wasn't. THAT was what threw it over the line.

Hashnode, DEV, Sitepoint, Mos Eisley Spaceport... Hives of scum and villainy. The only difference between the first three and the last one is that they hide what utter dirtbags run these places behind a fake plastered on smile, a shower of platitudes, and claims that they're justified in behaving that way to be "family friendly" for "positive vibes only".

... and there's a term for that. "Toxic Positivity". It's a controlling manipulative way to try and convince people a waffle cone of shit is chocolate soft-serve. A means of painting any dissenter as the bad guy so that the scam artists and snake oil peddlers can ply their wares.

Worst of all, most people seem conditioned for it to be normal and acceptable, no matter how immoral, indecent, or just plain dumbass the stance being defended is.
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: Jason Knight on 3 May 2021, 09:59:41 pm
Oh BTW, my ban was far worse than yours in that whilst they left all my posts up on their forums, they changed the username on every single one of them to "System".

That's about as douchebag a move as you can make in forum moderation.
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: coothead on 4 May 2021, 04:48:19 am
Quote from: Jason Knight
... my ban was far worse than yours in that whilst they left all my posts up on their
forums, they changed the username on every single one of them to "System".

I did point that out in my previous post, albeit in a roundabout way.

This thread was started just to point out the silliness of imposing  a suspension
that will probably expire after the demise of the human race.

Sitepoint's methods have just been changed from obliterating  members from
view to displaying them as a contemptible miscreants.

coothead
Title: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: coothead on 18 May 2021, 01:59:02 pm
As a matter of interest, as a test, I created  new personas
on both the Tor browser and a VPN connection.

This allowed me to sign in to Sitepoint as new members,
but within 24 hours i discovered that I had been banned
with the insinuation that I was the original suspended/
banned member.

As i assumed that Tor and VPN provided anonymity
does anyone know how this discovery was achieved?

coothead
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: Jason Knight on 18 May 2021, 03:25:03 pm
Honestly if you replied to a number of the same threads in the same manner, that's likely all they needed to nail you down. It's actually very hard to stop being "you". I was involved for a long time in a (once) high traffic gaming forum as admin, and "The usual suspects" were oft quite easy to recognize just by how they talk and what they posted about.
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: coothead on 18 May 2021, 03:53:45 pm
Quote from: Jason Knight
Honestly if you replied to a number of the same threads in the
same manner, that's likely all they needed to nail you down.

I was, obviously, aware that a coothead style would need to be
avoided, so I did not make any replies, and my only activity  was
to fill in a basic profile. I even signed up as female in one of the
tests.

coothead
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: jmrker on 18 May 2021, 04:04:40 pm
Big Brother?  ::)
Title: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: coothead on 18 May 2021, 04:24:04 pm
(https://sjc5.discourse-cdn.com/sitepoint/community/user_avatar/www.sitepoint.com/technobear/25/28001_2.png)  TechnoBear ?
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: Jason Knight on 27 May 2021, 12:03:43 am
Wow, laugh is I got access to ... an old account by logging in from FB? Wonder if they didn't copy the ban over when they switched to... whatever the hell their broken hard to use train wreck of how NOT to design a forums is.

Time to see how long it is before they ban me for telling people the truth.
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: coothead on 27 May 2021, 03:22:01 am
Quote from: Jason Knight
Time to see how long it is before they ban me for telling people the truth.

It will probably be soon after (https://sjc5.discourse-cdn.com/sitepoint/community/user_avatar/www.sitepoint.com/technobear/25/28001_2.png) Tecn0Bear has put his kilt and sporran on and eaten his porridge.  :D

coothead
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: Jason Knight on 27 May 2021, 04:57:41 am
And banned for "duplicate of banned member" which is funny since it seemed to have been on the existing account.

Was a laugh though to see they still give the same dipshit dated garbage advice. Like the poor sod trying to make a mobile menu where they're using JavaScript for things that -- since they were relevant -- NEVER needed javascript but nobody in 130+ posts points that out. Much less their gibberish markup.

Nope, just pat everyone on the back and "no negative vibes" allowed. The same ignorant bullshit that has always made Sitepoint a den of suckups and sycophants. They have ZERO interest in anyone ever actually helping anyone else, and only want to perpetuate the MYTH that they've got some sort of "experts" there.

Or the nimrod "Strike is deprecated by S isn't" -- yes, yes it is. Unless they went full Gungan and brought it back for HTML 5, <s> is just as gone as <strike>.... but don't tell anyone there that.

Sitepoint, for assclowns, by assclowns. Not a single blasted thing has changed there in a decade. They've got the same ignorant fools peddling the same ignorant advice with the same 1990's practices they always have, and how DARE anyone point that out.

Their entire "community" is a stunning example of what's WRONG with web development right now. Gotta maintain that echo chamber of patting people on the back no matter if the manure is up to their necks.

What I saw for replies and advice there was absolutely HORRIFYING. They should be ashamed of themselves for the absolute misleading, nonsensical, half-tweet "advice" being handed out there.
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: coothead on 27 May 2021, 05:05:51 am
... so has TechnoBear now removed Jason Knight?

coothead
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: John_Betong on 27 May 2021, 06:31:23 am
Yes, all of Jason’s posts have been removed when the European SP Staff logged in this morning.



Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: coothead on 27 May 2021, 08:53:21 am
Yes, all of Jason’s posts have been removed when
the European SP Staff logged in this morning.

That's odd because I can still see them - as at 1:49PM  GMT.

Perhaps, they are only visible to those banned or
suspended for one thousand years.  ;D

coothead
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: coothead on 27 May 2021, 09:11:39 am
1. https://www.sitepoint.com/community/t/closing-php-loop-correctly/368227/6 (https://www.sitepoint.com/community/t/closing-php-loop-correctly/368227/6)
2. https://www.sitepoint.com/community/t/using-an-ordered-list-in-a-css-grid/368190/9 (https://www.sitepoint.com/community/t/using-an-ordered-list-in-a-css-grid/368190/9)
3. https://www.sitepoint.com/community/t/css-grid-giant-gaps/368157/4 (https://www.sitepoint.com/community/t/css-grid-giant-gaps/368157/4)
4. https://www.sitepoint.com/community/t/why-is-the-selection-removing-the-strike-line-made-by-the-strike-tag/368125/12 (https://www.sitepoint.com/community/t/why-is-the-selection-removing-the-strike-line-made-by-the-strike-tag/368125/12)
5. https://www.sitepoint.com/community/t/confirm/368124/5 (https://www.sitepoint.com/community/t/confirm/368124/5)
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: Jason Knight on 27 May 2021, 06:40:22 pm
Yes, all of Jason’s posts have been removed when the European SP Staff logged in this morning.
Only ones that seems to be gone is my responses to you. Because that's the REAL reason for "hey it's him again", because how DARE I contradict an established member, moderator, staff, or worse DARE to point out someone's REAL problem.

Because anything that isn't shallow flattery must be "non-constructive". Can't POSSIBLY have it be acceptable to say that the poor sod's problem was the dipshit half-tweet rubbish framework, the use of JavaScript for nothing it encouraged, and all the bullshit you guys were packing him full of in that thread.

Nope, can't actually have people ACTUALLY trying to help, just got to keep throwing those silver bullets and band-aid fixes at a corpse riddled with .50 cal bullet holes.

But sure, suggesting that the framework and its bad practices are the real problem was "non-constructive". Mellitele's tits what a crock. As I said before, this is what's WRONG with places like Sitepoint and in fact the industry as a whole. Echo-chambers of stamping out dissent with toxic positivity for the sole purpose of mollycoddling people into remaining ignorant, inept, and incompetent. Because how DARE anyone DARE to point out when there are legitimate problems and what causes same!

It's no wonder YOUR code ends up the wrecks they do and the utter nonsense you say about it, if places like Sitepoint are your exemplars.
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: John_Betong on 28 May 2021, 10:33:35 pm

@Jason,
I can't be bothered to contradict your post even though I do not believe in your point of view, but will add… So, everyone who disagree with you. Just label them as fools and then you dont have to argue, you always think you're the smart one and right about everything.

Who was it that said something like: wise men are full of doubts, only fools know everything.
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It's no wonder YOUR code ends up the wrecks they do and the utter nonsense you say about it, if places like Sitepoint are your exemplars.
Also, why is it necessary to get personal in order to try and justify your point of view?

Have you ever considered that you could sometimes be wrong :)

Reminds me of Frank Sinatra "I did it, I did it my way".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQzdAsjWGPg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQzdAsjWGPg)
Title: Re: ~ suspended for one thousand years ~
Post by: Jason Knight on 19 Jun 2021, 03:09:18 am
Reminds me of Frank Sinatra "I did it, I did it my way".
Had a hit song called "My Way" but someone else wrote it; he's the least talented rat in his whole pack of rodents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5a_v0MP_Fk